Up In Flames (Misfitt, Money Dolls, Kami)

[DARKSIDE]

Angel's entrance music begins to play and the crowd cheers like crazy when Angel appears on the stage. She makes her way to the ring, flirting with the fans along the way. She slinks up onto the ring apron and plays to the fans before stepping between the ropes.

Angel grabs a mic from the ringside attendant and whips a piece of paper out from the inseam of her purple snakeskin pants....

Before I get down to why I am out here, let's look back at where I have been, and what I have been through.[/b]

A video package plays on the 'Tron highlighting Angel's recent matches...her winning the triple threat...and defeating Serenity once again in their match just a couple nights before then.

I've done everything I needed to in order to make it BACK to this point. I feel like I have climbed the mountain all over again after being knocked down. KAMI!!! I passed all your tests. I won the triple threat....I beat Serenity in her little game of treachery. Now, nothing stands in between you and me but TIME! Something you don't have a lot of left.[/b]

Angel's tone and demeanor suddenly change to a more solemn mood...

But....after going through all this. Putting up with all the games...and the roadblocks, I'm....not sure I even want this anymore. Face the facts. It's obvious Kami doesn't want to face me again. She's afraid of losing her precious title. A real "fighting champion" would have taken my challenge head-on instead of setting up all these chances to avoid having me in the ring with her again. She failed, and I have survived! But, it's just not worth it anymore.[/b]

Angel unfolds the piece of paper and holds it up...

THIS....is the contract for my Amazon Championship match at the next PPV. It's a long time coming....

However....[/b]

Angel reaches into her top and pulls out a butane lighter. She ignites it and runs the flame across the contract until it catches fire! She then waves her hand around, letting the ashes and sparks fly through the air as she smiles and lets out a joyful giggle.

The crowd is buzzing with a shocked reaction of shock of gasps and boos...

There ya go, "champ"! No more #1 Contender. I don't need it. Let the rest of these harpies rip themselves to pieces for a shot.

Congratulations! You're not even on my radar anymore. You aren't worth the trouble. You'll get no satisfaction from ME![/b]

Angel's tone gets more serious again...

Now, I seek something better than gold. Something I can really sink my fangs into! Ha ha haaa...... Madison and "Trashley"....couple of fucking sell-outs! And you got Serenity riding your coattails, too? Aww....how perfect. You must the ones Moneymaker was talking about.

Pfft...REALLY???

Your cowardly attacks on me and Misfitt will NOT go unpunished. Naughty little whores like you need to be spanked. Thing is...we like it ROUGH!

Like it or not, The Murder Dollz are gonna make you pay. But, not with money. Your penance will be served by VIOLENCE!

You wanna get real rich? Think of how freely your boss plays God with your lives and careers. He sends you to attack me. You jump Misfitt from behind? He's practically feeding you to the wolves! Maybe you should think better of all this and sue his ass for everything he's worth!

Or...you can just come out here, and take everything you've got coming![/b]

[Christian MoneyMaker]

Moneymaker comes out to the stage area with his briefcase in hand as he starts clapping and smiling.

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Now didn't I tell you I was gonna show you the light? Didn't I say that you were gonna know who the Money Dolls were last week? You can't say I didn't warn you and honestly you two had it coming. I did give hints of their arrival as their names were M&M. And baby they do melt in your mouth and not in your hand.

You see last week was so sweet for me. First of all, I got to see the arrival of Madi$on come back and do what she does best. I got to see Ashley put the boots to both of you just after she beat the crap out of one of the girls that betrayed me in Raiyven. And that is what you get when you put your own agenda above MINE!

But don't worry, Angel you are gonna get everything your little heart wants but maybe not the way you want it. And I know I got your attention when you are willing to throw away your chance at Amazon Gold for a piece of my two fine lovely ladies.

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Moneymaker opens up his briefcase and hold contracts in his hand.

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Here are contracts for the PPV. I am gonna bring Money Dolls there to face you two mouth breathers. The two finest women in the world verses the two biggest pieces of trash in the world. But tonight you are thinking I want a piece of them right now. Well for your amusement and entertainment you will get that but in a singles environment. But I am gonna let you decide who you want. Do you want the lovely Ashley Milano or do you want the sensual Madi$on?

And as far as Kami goes don't need to worry about her so much. Eventually she will be a part of my plans as that title she cherishes more than anything else I will rip off of her little Asian waist just like we ripped you two trailer park trash last week.

So you don't have to believe me, you can get your partner in crime out here and mine will be out to address the both of you. But like I said, I did bring you two the best in the business and they were World Champions and now they are out to destroy the both of you and show the rest of these Amazons in here that I am not playing around anymore.

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[Ashley Milano]

Before anyone could respond the music of Ashley Milano plays as she walks out with a pink mic in her hand as she walks close to Moneymaker as she kisses his left side of his cheek. She lets him put his arm around her as she speaks.

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Well, well, well! What do we have in the ring? Last time I saw you girl, I was putting my boots to your little trashy face. You see you think just cause you got lucky and lets be honest it was luck that you never got to face me. You beat Serenity not once but twice and good for you on that one. But I did say that I was gonna make people pay for not paying attention to me. Not giving me my just due. You saw what I did last week didn't ya? I took that MMA wannabe and took her to her environment and beat her like she stole something. And baby she did she stole my spotlight! And that Japanese Warrior thinks that Raiyven is the next big thing! I just showed the world don't piss me off.

Now with that said, that is why I came down to that ring and put the boots to you. That is why my man right here don't want to be surrounded by trashy people and girls that are girls. He wants to be surrounded by winners and lets face it the beautiful women. Why do you think he chose who he chose? You really think that he had girls like Angelus and Raiyven and Misfitt by his side for any other reason? He has a very calculating mind. And me and Madi$on being playing all of you for months. The plan was always for me and Madi$on and never for the ugly people in this company or in the world for that matter.

So Angel you may think just cause you got yourself surrounded by some night crawlers that that makes you special? You think just cause you beat up on Serenity and by the way, I take justice for that because she watched us beat the crap out of you. You never know maybe she wants to walk the glamour side of life instead of dragging her knuckles like the likes of you!

Bottom line hook, you are going to see the bad side of me and Madi$on at the PPV and tonight I plan on whipping one of you just like I did that over hyped Raiyven last week. Make it easy on yourselves because you did call out the dogs and now we are here and ready to take what belongs to us and that is the spotlight and the Amazon Division.

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[Misfitt]

#You speak of dogs... and your nothing more then a rat....#

Alive slams into the speakers as Misfitt makes her way through the crowd. She jumps the rail and enters the ring with Angel.

#You speak of spotlights and that your owed something. Girl your only owed a bloody mess in the ring. Your OWED a foot that breaks your jaw... See, you maybe girls that act like girls... that your thing... But my thing is pain and torment.. If you recall the way I toyed with that Trintiy. You would have seen... I was playing with her... As I shall do with two M&M's. I shall take you apart and bleed you out... You want to call yourself beatful. Just wait till we get ahold of you... Your looks will end up like your wrestling skill.. rather shitty.

WE ARE THE MURDER DOLLZ... and your careers are about to get that..

[Madi$on]

Madison was quick to make her way out from the back, joining Ashley and Moneymaker.
She smiles as she shakes his hand, knocks fists with Ashley, and then turns to the two women she attacked with Ashley

Aww whats the matter you two? Angry that you got what was coming to you? You two ugly trolls have strutted around here like your untouchable, and your the top of the heap. Problem is, your bottom of the barrel. Misfitt is too worried about sounding scary, and bleeding. Angel is tied up with a failure of a hardcore wrestler, and her little cult shit. That's the problem with you two. Your both stuck in this horror movie world you made up in your puny little minds. You think this is just one big long horror movie. What you seem to fail to realize is. In EVERY horror movie, the killer's always defeated. They keep coming back for more, and yes, they get some bloodshed, but in the end, they are ALWAYS send packing until they decide to come back and try again.

So while you two both prance around like dueling leatherfaces, annoying with your incessant whining voices, Ashley and I, have been keeping it real. True to life beauty, and frankly, I'm tired of downplaying it. You all wanna throw it in my face that I'm hot, and plastic like barbie doll? Fine, so be it. I'm the new Barbie Doll of the world. You can call me "Better Than You" Barbie! I come with all the talent in the world, and I can be anything I wanna be. Tonight, I wanna be kicking your asses!

The crowd popped
She wasn't paying attention to that though.
Her goal wasn't to win them over with her words.

And before you jump on me about signing with Mr Moneymaker here. The way I see it, with all of his connections, around the world. It just makes it that much easier for me to get my foot in the door, and let my talent win the world over. Because let's face it. You two trolls give women wrestlers a bad image, and nobody wants to cast us in movies, or commercials, or put us in advertising campaigns, because they all think we're some butched up, troll looking pigs like you. When in all actuality, some of us, are Beautiful and Money, and the rest of you aren't!

[DARKSIDE]

Aww, c'mon, Madi$on. You know that's not true. Nobody's casting you in movies, commercials or advertisements because, well....you SUCK! The bottom line is no one wants to work with a whiny, horrible little prima donna slab of bitch meat like YOU!

Face it. All this big talk you're doing? It's all as fake as those ridiculous looking tits of yours. Ha ha haaa.... Well, ya gotta compensate for that tiny ass brain somehow. You're like a fucking dinosaur....and you're just begging to become extinct! Aren't ya??[/b]

Angel walks around the ring for a second, seeming to be thinking deeply about something. Suddenly, she pops her head up with a gasp...

Oh....my.....God! I totally get it now. You two aren't really looking for a fight after all! No! No!! I see it all so clearly. The both of you have gotten so SICK of being such chronic pieces of crap that you barely stand to look in the mirror anymore. You decided to band together in a suicide pact and then, you sought out me and Misfitt because you knew nobody could wipe your stupid faces off of the planet better than we can! Yeah! That has to be it! You're too spoiled and lazy to go ahead and bother to kill yourselves. Probably afraid of dying with a broken nail or something. Spare me! But , you want it to look like someone else's fault, too. That's why WE have to be the ones to put you out of your misery...and ours, too!

When you came out and jumped us the other night, it was obviously a cry for help. Aww....that's so sweet. Really, I'm honored.

Ha ha ha ha haaa......[/b]

Angel's tone becomes more serious...

Ya know....it's a good thing you and Ashley whored yourselves out to Moneymaker after all. Maybe he can afford to have you both put back together after The Murder Dollz are done tearing you apart![/b]

[Ashley Milano]

Ashley begins looking at both of the Murder Dolls as she begins

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Listen hooks! No one had to save anyone except me and Madi$on saving these fans from another glimpse of you two. Rating Killers ought to be your name instead of Murder Dolls. The only thing you two are Murdering is the buyrates that this company loves so much. Matter of face we were sent out here to save this company and not kill it what you two are doing.

You see it is obvious that we are headed for a huge fight us four. But tonight we both want to see you two suffer. So tonight like it or not we got ourselves a battle. You know in the singles background. And to me it don't matter which one of you tramps I beat up on first. And at the PPV, you will witness the true meaning of what a "Doll" really is.

You see Angel, you are wrapped in this little dark world you have created and you think just cause you put on a little face paint and scream to the heavens then that makes you special. That makes you untouchable. But what it makes you is next on the list of the Money Dolls.

And Misfitt as far as you go? You think just cause you beat up on a weakling like Trinity then that makes you special? Hell I beat her up so much last year that she left and went to do what she was best at and that is being another chump's trophy! So you are no winner in my eyes. All you really have done is beat up on someone that wants to be like me and Madi$on but don't have the drive to do so.

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[Misfitt]

#So I haven't been tested by beating Trinity... well if you get your head out of your ass, you would have heard I was toying with the child.

I think you shall be facing me in a no dq hardcore match... Hell you can even bring Your little buddy with you.... I am not even bothered by both of you... You just to little bitches that need your fake parts popped.

[Madi$on]

Plastic parts? Honey, I'm 100% real, flesh, and bone. The only thing fake about me, is my pretending to think of you as anything more then a fly. You buzz around this ring, on camera, and in the back. That annoying little thing that everyone ignores, but after so long of the incessant buzzing, you just want to smack the living shit out of it, and be done with it forever. So consider this your warning, fly. Your gonna get swatted, and when your down, and stunned, we are going to pluck your little wings out, you lowly insect.

As for this "suicide pact" your referring to. The only suicidal thing about us, is coming down to your low level, and actually competing against you. If it wasn't for the off chance we might run you out of this company, we wouldn't bother. Then again, when someone throws cash at you, telling you to go destroy someone and take their livelihood, you don't think twice when it's someone of your caliber. You cheapen this profession with your presence. So, I suggest you head to the back, gather up your little voodoo dolls, get on your broomstick, and go back to the minor leagues. Nobody has any interest in another Blair Witch project, which is what your career basicly is. Someone started a rumor that you were good, and it spread until people wanted to see it firsthand. Now that we've seen what little you can do, we're all going and turning our backs on you, because we just cant watch anymore.

She follows through the mocking by turning her back on Angel and continues speaking

Now, if I turn around, and you guys are still standing there, then it's obvious your begging for us to put you out of OUR misery. We'll have no choice, but to truly dispose of you. We'll just do it slow, and bleed you dry, since your so insisting on your weaponry. Whats the matter, can't wrestle? Can't fight fair? You need an unfair advantage? I'm sorry that Ashley and I you know, are properly trained, while you two belong in backyards, and graveyards with the rest of the trash who pretend to be professional. So go make some youtube videos of your fights with eachother, because that's all you have for a fan base, eachother.

She hadn't turned back around to face them.
She didn't know if anyone had anything else to add, or if they would leave like she told them to.

[DARKSIDE]

Aww...great! Another little girl whose afraid of using weapons. What's the matter? Afraid I'll ruin your makeup? You all really know how to take the "fun" out of this. If anything, the ratings are falling because people like you and that chicken shit Serenity choose to take the weakling's way out and refuse to truly test yourselves. Kudos, Madi$on, on once again denying all these fans a match they really want to see.

I don't care what kind of match we have. All this talking is starting to piss me off, and I need to clean my claws on some Money Doll flesh! Come on, bitch! Shut the fuck up...and FIGHT!

And at the PPV? Since you and "Trashley" are so far up your own asses, The Murder Dollz are gonna rip you to shreds, and sew you back together, so you be all up in each other's asses instead. The Money Dolls are going to look more like a snooty bitch version of the Human Centipede after we're through with you.[/b]

[Kaminari]

Kaminari stands alone on the upper concourse of the arena, Sentoryu's usual place, looking down on five individuals scattered around the ring in various places. The exchange of words amused Kami immensely. First Angel came out and with all the drama of a Kabuki theater nonchalantly set fire to a contract that was never signed and effectively destroyed three weeks of work. What had she fought for for three weeks, to go though that only to throw it aside like spoiled left overs. Kami didn't understand the reasoning. But Kami also did not understand what Angel's motivation in the world of sports was to begin with.

Looking to the man with the greying hair,Christian Moneymaker. To Kami this man was also an enigma. Every year this man trots out another half thought out scheme to either take over the company or get a strangle hold on one division or another. Each year he fails to deliver, but year in year out he again failure or not trots out the next scheme without fail. Kami liked his resolve. Not many could go though so much and get so little in return only to come back stronger the next year.

Kami looks to the very strange girl in the dress. Misfitt, Kami had no idea what so ever what to make of her. Cryptic and shallow neither here nor there, blindly following Angel into whatever Angel deemed to be the next cause. Always talking about blood and pain. Kami knew of both but did not really want either. Did this girl not know how to stand on her own? Does she not have the inner strength to be her own person? Kami did not know the answer, possibly never will.


Looking to the pink haired Ashley. Kami knew this woman. Knew her like none in the ring would. Ashley was the one that gave Kami fits, first as a partner and then as an adversary. In both she was strong Ashley had immense ability, but lacked focus and was in need of guidance. Maybe Moneymaker could at least provide enough to get Ash where she needed to be. Kami hoped that that would be the case for she had great respect for this woman.


Looking to the self proclaimed "The Queen Of The Scene" Madi$on. Kami shakes her head yet another conundrum. Kami had no idea where this one was coming from or going to.

All are very good in the ring, some better then others, but all good in their own rights.

Steeling herself Kami reaches up and ties her hair back. She is in a stunning Versace ensemble, from the tiny hair clip she had just fastened her hair with to the stiletto woven pumps that she wore. Kami Starts to descend to the ring though the crowd. There is a clamor among them as Kami moves though them like a ghost. They reach out to her and as she passes she touches the odd hand and feels the light touch of the crowd as they part and then collapse again as she passes, like a gentle wave lapping on the beach.

Jumping over the barrier,Kami retrieves a mike from ringside she then rolls into the ring. Standing in the nearest empty corner she bows deeply to all that stand before her. Respect for those that have battle with and against her over the last few years.

Tonight I thought I would see someone that was ready to step onto the larger stage. Someone that would step out from the shadows, to become more then another face in the crowd. To stand above the faceless masses that have come and gone in the Amazon division or the course of time that I:W has existed. To come to that door and kick it off the hinges, to etch a new name on the face of I:W to scar its flesh with a new name. But no alas after going though the grueling battles, over the course of the last few weeks Angel just lets it go to do what? Do the safe and easy thing and go back into the shadows and hide behind the facade of being a lap pet for two men that play themselves off as evil incarnate. Do you really want to be seen as just a play thing for a rookie that cant get a win here if his life depended on it, Angel? I gave you the chance to prove to these women and to yourself that you belong on the biggest stage. I set you on the path to the top. What did you do with it you took to the challenge, beat each stage of it with relative ease. Walked though the competitors one and two at a time. Then when you finally emerged on the other side, what did you do? Scurry back too your little hole in the dark. Back to play house with Graves. Back to catering to the whims of others. Back to lording over a simple child that needs help not violence. Let Misfitt learn to stand on her own feet. Be what you can be you could have had it all , you could have swam with the big fish in the ocean but no you return to your fish bowl where you do not have to give a hundred percent. Where you can get by on insults and natural abilities. Why work when you can do what everyone does now a days... coast. Well so be it. I gave you a shot at the title because I thought you could be your own person. To give you a chance to stand above the crowd. I seen in you someone that could be a great champion. You lost in our first match and Yes I did offer you a rematch. But like so many that had just fallen short you expected it without going though the others on the roster that also thought they should be in line next. I came out to the ring with the three of you standing bickering over who was more suited to be the number one contender. I looked at each of you bickering like little spoiled bitches and thought what better way to go is to have you all prove which one was better. In that you Angel have succeeded but also with the help of Graves. If not for him you may have or may not have won. This we do not know. Am I better then you? That we will also never know. Why because you walked away to play with the little fish. That is fine by me. If you do not have the inner strength to stand and grasp the brass ring. Then what is it for me to force it upon you.

[DARKSIDE]

Angel slowly raises her mic, somewhat unsure of what to make of Kami's words...

Hmmm....interesting.[/i]

I see you just seething to chime in, but if I can get "Pinky" and "The Brain-Dead" over there to shut their cock holes for two seconds....I've got something to say to this back-pedaling hypocrite!

Kami, you should have stayed out of this. If Moneymaker wants to screw with the Murder Dollz and send two of his prize heifers out here to be slaughtered....then so be it! This doesn't concern YOU! But you just HAD to flutter your ass down here from your lofty perch and talk more shit about me.

Yeah! You know what you did! You know I overcame every challenge you put in my way. I climbed all the way back to the top of "Mt. Kaminari"....but then, I just lost interest. If you wanted to test me...you should have done it by honoring my acceptance of your rematch offer. Not make me survive through a 3-way and then fight the same skid mark that I pinned in the triple threat AGAIN just to earn my place as #1 contender. None of these pathetic sows are worth my time, and I proved that by walking over them to get back in your face!

Know what? Sure, I lit my title shot contract on fire tonight. You drove me to that. But, you can also make it right. Contracts are just pieces of paper. They can be rewritten. If you really still want to see if I have what it takes to be the champion....go talk to the boss and have him book a title match between us at the PPV. I know I already have an obligation to beat the holy Hell out of those two failed abortions, Madi$on and Trashley....but that doesn't mean I won't be any less prepared to take you on....if you choose to actually take me up on this. I'll fight you if you still want me to. I'll beat you, if I can.....but I WILL...hurt you! Win or lose...you will never forget what we do to each other in this ring next time we fight!

That's not a threat. It's a PROMISE....Kami! I promise I will give you the beating of your short, mortal life. I'm not daring you to offer me the shot I deserve. I'm simply coming to collect that which is owed! What do you say, "champ"? Have I got your attention yet?[/b]

[Raiyven]

The lights turn to the crowd as Raiyven was up there the whole time watching what was unfolding. She began her walk down the aisle as fans were touching her back for support as she made her way to the announcers table. She makes her a place to stand as she has a mic in her hand.

I came here tonight for answers and it seems that I got them. The first recruit it seemed from Moneymaker I was and it was just a shadow game that he likes to play. And that is fine by me. And as I look at you Ashley don't think for one minute that you and I are done. You got the win and I can say this honestly that that was the worse beating I ever took. You were definitely prepared and I apologize for these fans for the effort I gave. But that won't happen again. And even though you come out with your vibrance and attitude you are one that I do respect.

And then there is you Madi$on. Another great warrior that the beauty misleads others to think you are just another pretty face on a magazine. As I made my attempt to get rid of the barbies in this company and do what I do best. And I am sure that road that I am traveling is still a quest but you have climbed that mountain to heights that not many have traveled. And with that you and I will probably meet some day in that battlefield for the fans to see.

That brings me to you, Misfitt. Once sisters to one degree we are now on opposite sides of the fence. You have aligned yourself with the Darkside. You have become someone that I could not mix with anymore. Maybe a decision I should of never made. One close friend told me not to make it but did anyway. You know how I tick and I know how you tick. But as I see you aligned with Angel over there it just makes me want to do bad things to you. Not because of any other reason but to say that you are an obstacle that stands in my way of the ultimate destination. So it is best for you to not stand in my way any more.

Now it is your turn Angel. A woman that talks about people running but you have ran from me. You fear me. And you should be. And as I saw you burn that contract up it shows me that you have allowed the makings of Moneymaker there that I put my boots to not so long ago take you to a place that you can not handle. But a place you must go to conquer these fears. I fear you may not like where you are going and you may not return or return to who you once were. But you see, you are a woman that stands in my way. You throw away your title match and now want it back. That lacks character. But you know I am not going to cry over spilled milk because as you all stand in this ring should know that I am a patient woman. And I can say this that not many have put the Champion on her back for the 1-2-3. I take that as a compliment of how good I have become and will get my opportunity again. So Angel, I feel you are stealing that opportunity and with that I must do bad things to you. Bad things that I never thought I would do to someone but you deserve them for the transgressions you are doing and have done in your past.

Finally, I say this to you Kaminari. You and I are destined to give these fans what they want. You need to know in your own heart about our battle and I need to know in mine. If you plan on giving Angel her shot then you are a very honorable woman. But as you know next month we go to Japan. If you walk out as champion or she walks out as Champion then I will take my next quest in Japan to a place you call home and to a place where my mother is from. And tonight, I plan on taking the next step to "The Rising Sun".

[DARKSIDE]

Angel just shakes her head as Raiyven runs her mouth yet again...

Are you done??

Are you DONE yet?? Pretentious little bitch. Don't come out here and act like you're better than anyone else, especially ME. People say every win I have had since I got here was merely "luck". I beg to differ. I don't put my body in jeopardy each and every night just hoping "luck" will carry me through. I win...because I can out-wrestle, overpower, and outsmart any of you. I can come out of nowhere and pick up a victory before you even knew what happened. Face it! The only reason why anyone in this shit hole even comes out here to say anything TO me or ABOUT me is because they either see me as a huge threat....or they're just too stupid to realize the danger they're putting themselves into!

You ladies and your inflated chests and egos can talk among yourselves and decide which category you fall into. You gotta pick one. Sorry. You only have those two options.

Oh, and Raiyven....did you ever think maybe you only beat Kami that night because you got LUCKY?? Ha haa! See! I can do it, too! How does it feel? Coming down to your level just made me lose 30 IQ points. I don't know how you all can live this way.

Look, you're all just butt-hurt because now Kami came out here and said what she said. Once again, someone blabbering on about me...but at least she is worth listening to...most of the time. You all heard it. She is willing to live up to her promise. She seems to be the only one of you Amazons who has half a brain, and I respect her for that....though I still want to run her bony ass through a wood chipper. Ha haaa...

Anyway, all this mindless babble is boring the Hell out of me, and I need to be 100% if I'm going to give Kami the kind of match that she has been hoping for.

The rest of you can fuck off and get to the back of the line. I'M NEXT![/b]

Angel walks out, pushing past those in her way without saying a word as she leaves ringside and heads to the back....

[Misfitt]

# I am no one sidekick. I am my own person... So, don't let this get twisted... I will face anyone in this ring... I will stand with a army or stand by myself... I am unafraid.

If you want to fight Ravyin... Come on and get it.. I am not going anywhere...